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This just an observation on my own search habits, but I noticed recently that I no longer “google” for things. Is this just me, or is the world changing? More and more when I want answers I use AI or CoPilot. I don’t think I have used Google for several weeks! I think SEO has had it’s day!


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Posted by: @paule

This just an observation on my own search habits, but I noticed recently that I no longer “google” for things. Is this just me, or is the world changing? More and more when I want answers I use AI or CoPilot. I don’t think I have used Google for several weeks! I think SEO has had it’s day!

SEO is definitely in its twilight.

But, one area where it will remain relevant is for real world businesses. Chatbots in their current state will never take the place of a basic search for services. If your car breaks down and you need to get it towed, nothing beats the search engine tracking your location and giving you all the information you need at once.

SEO is no longer viable in the long term as a lone marketing channel, but has its place as part of your suite of marketing channels that you use.

 


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Posted by: @lebogang22

Posted by: @paule

 

SEO is definitely in its twilight.

But, one area where it will remain relevant is for real world businesses. Chatbots in their current state will never take the place of a basic search for services. If your car breaks down and you need to get it towed, nothing beats the search engine tracking your location and giving you all the information you need at once.

SEO is no longer viable in the long term as a lone marketing channel, but has its place as part of your suite of marketing channels that you use.

 

Definitely yes, I didn't mention that in the post. If you can have a local business and a product that you can sell, SEO would still be valuable I think. (no expert here). 
Reason why I have been thinking about buying my own lasercutting machine and dive into the world of creating my own laser-cut DIY book nook kit designs, and selling them on my site for a small market. Not even for profit (I've known a seller go down in selling those, once she got off Etsy), but to offer something that I can sell through my site. Google thinks this is looking more like a real brand  (again, no expert here, just what I read on X lol). It seems that eccomerce sites , who also have a blog on their site, haven't been hit either.

 

 


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Posted by: @lebogang22

Posted by: @paule

This just an observation on my own search habits, but I noticed recently that I no longer “google” for things. Is this just me, or is the world changing? More and more when I want answers I use AI or CoPilot. I don’t think I have used Google for several weeks! I think SEO has had it’s day!

SEO is definitely in its twilight.

But, one area where it will remain relevant is for real world businesses. Chatbots in their current state will never take the place of a basic search for services. If your car breaks down and you need to get it towed, nothing beats the search engine tracking your location and giving you all the information you need at once.

SEO is no longer viable in the long term as a lone marketing channel, but has its place as part of your suite of marketing channels that you use.

I do the same, but I use Facebook to search for locals. 

 


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Posted by: @paule

This just an observation on my own search habits, but I noticed recently that I no longer “google” for things. Is this just me, or is the world changing? More and more when I want answers I use AI or CoPilot. I don’t think I have used Google for several weeks! I think SEO has had it’s day!

 

I still use google in Dutch or to look for keywords for my English site, but personally, hardly anymore indeed. But I'm "generation X", basically grew up with Facebook ahahahaha. Hiking trails? > facebook groups. "best things to do in South Africa?"=> facebook groups lol. I'm looking around for the laws in Belgium about tiny houses=> FB groups Smile  

 


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@paule I don´t. I have seen to may fail of AI so I use Duckduckgo


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Posted by: @paule

I don’t think I have used Google for several weeks!

I think the tide is certainly on the turn. Especially with Chatty Search now on the scene. I think Alphabet's stock dropped 3% overnight as a direct result!


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Posted by: @ohnoo_not_her

It's a good "train of thought" all of this.

It's a great discussion Smile I'm interested in 'Regional' SEO although time + money does not allow for any indulgent SEO projects atm ... lol

I know there are quite a few Spanish only affiliate products, for example. I've often thought about translating to other languages and trying out these regional offers ... it'd be interesting to see what the competition is like!

For keyword research, the VPN is in order at that point!

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@rohanm " I've often thought about translating to other languages and trying out these regional offers"

If you do that, remember that tools like Google Translate are horrible in most languages.
Open AI is interesting as I can follow if they are good or bad from the start.
The Icelandic government has always been quick to defend the language, so they are very open-minded about software.
So they made a great contract (no money, benefits for both) stating that Icelandic would be the Open AI second language.
So I have seen that they do best about that and how they are developed.
They have developed fast, but even so, they are very bad. I hope that I don´t offend anyone, but English is a very simple language about grammar and vocabulary if you have many languages in mind.
For example, we have here in Iceland, I guess, 15 words for snow—probably more. In Greenland, they do not have the word snow! But it is a decent word over different snow like we have, just much more.
In Chech, I think you should remember that they greatly word over you.  These is all things, and especially the grammar it, that Open AI doesn´t can do at the moment, and because of that it, Icelandic for example, is horrible.
I once heard that Google Translate was good in Spanish. I can speak it to talk on the telephone or travel, but it is far from good enough to judge that.
But I believe all of East Europe would be impossible, and for sure, many countries in Central Europe and North Europe.

One problem is that if the tools don´t understand words in the text, they just write what they think. I have seen this happen in Germany: there was a text about Par going out and buying an ice cream. Because the tool didn´t understand two words, they were suddenly on the airplane.
And I guess Icelanders are not the only ones who know what happened some years ago when you wrote a question about Justin Biber and translated that from English to Vietnam and back.
So you can easily offend a whole nation with it.
Here, we are trying as hard as we can to defend the language. For example, I, like most Icelanders, have no problem reading the text that was written here in 1100.
But simultaneously, it is horrible how many languages disappear every 3 years.


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@rohanm I agree with @Noteboom, you can't just use Google Translate, it doesn't make any sense lol.
And your site would look very amateurish to the people reading it. On the contrary, no one on my Facebook page or groups or Pinterest or site or newsletter ever said anything about me being a non native English speaker.
Of course you guys here noticed that I'm not, that's because I'm just "chatting away" here, and don't care about my English on forums like this hahaha. 
I can make a few grammar mistakes on videos and such, then people correct me, but that's good for  engagement whahahaha!

I just answer them then: I speak 4 languages well and one language I can understand and speak a little ( I can have a normal conversation in Italian as well, just don't ask me to write it lol), and then I'm like : 'how many languages do you speak then'? Shuts them up 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 

(Belgium officially has three languages, and English isn't even included in the official ones)


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Posted by: @noteboom

So you can easily offend a whole nation with it.

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 

Thanks for the feedback Jóhann, that's very good to know! I think Spanish is the 2nd most used language on the planet so maybe a good place to start.

Although, from what you're saying, it sounds like hiring a native Spanish speaker to proof read the output might be worthwhile. Then the project immediately starts costing more money!

I think I'll stick to the English reviews for now Smile

 

Posted by: @noteboom

I hope that I don´t offend anyone, but English is a very simple language about grammar and vocabulary

Not offended here Smile In fact many Brits are a lot more simple than the language is and can barely string two words together, in my experience ...

Shut Mouth

 


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